This site is  just about over the mudslinging regarding who ran the dirty campaign.  Again, support your candidate passionately, but leave the bullshit behind, got it? Get it? Great.

I'm curious, would you vote for Obama if Hillary was on the ticket?

I was a big Hillary supporter as well. I thought the primary was the worst thing I've ever seen in American politics and was briefly considering sitting the election out. But I find it hard to believe that you won't vote for Obama come November if you're a Democrat. But I certainly get your anger. The Clinton's were trashed by fellow Democrats and it was painful to watch.

Thanks for passing along this information. Much appreciated. Hillary would be a formidable campaigning addition to the ticket should Obama offer it to her and she accept. And what a headline and interest booster the choice would be too. Obama AND Hillary would be all the news again, leaving McCain hopelessly overshadowed and sidelined like he was before.

I would like to second all of this.  On intellectual merits, policy acumen, base appeal, and stature HRC is a tantalizing addition.  But in terms of judging electoral impact, we need some numbers here.  How many arguments have been waged on this site based on differing assumptions of what Clinton's appeal actually is?  Beyond that, Obama would indeed need to figure out clear roles for BOTH Clintons in his administration, roles they would be enthusiastic about.  Hillary and Bill are not neutral sorts.  And I mean that with a good deal of admiration.  They would both either be tremendous or liabilities.  If Obama is interested, if the numbers seem to make sense, and if the chemistry is workable, he should not make the mistake of trying to neutralize them.  Rather he needs to capitalize on what they bring to the team.

i don't know if we are going to get any accurate numbers to satisfy everyone's thirst for the answer until election night in November. Unfortunately the choice has to be made before that date. We can't always rely on polls for everything. And put another way, we can't always rely on innaccurate and irrelevant polls for all our needs. Sometimes we have to rely on our own knowledge.

If we are going to put any faith in polls, we now know that we have a very close election; possibly a deadheat at the moment. We need a spark in the campaign that will carry us to victory. An OC ticket can provide that spark.

We also know a number of things without any polls. We know the Clinton's have always performed well in Florida and Ohio, with Bill Clinton taking the latter state twice. We know Hillary attracts large numbbers of Latino's. We know that Bill Clinton took West Virginia twice. We know that both Clinton's have performed quite well in the border states of Tennessee and Kentucky. We know that the Clinton's are enormously popular in Arkansas. We know that Hillary's presence on the ticket would immediately unite the party even moreso than now. We know Hillary won nearly 18 million votes in the primary and when coupled with Obama, they combine for nearly 36 million votes. This is a nice starting point. And we know that an OC ticket would rekindle the excitement in the campaign that has been lacking ever since the end of the primaries.

We are too quick to rely on polls. Sometimes we have to rely on what we know without polls.

This election is dangerously close now, and we can't let this chance for a big victory in November slip away.

Nancy told them to back the hell off and they did just that. The Dems are doing very badly with fundraising. Obama is not pulling in nearly what he used to. McCain tied him last month.

The netroots is not what it was months ago. Apperently they thought that beating Clinton and winning the nomination was the real prize. It's not.

Just who do you think Clinton's big money donors are? They are most definitely a part of "our party". She is a Democratic Senator and the wife of the only living 2-term Democratic President. Her donors are the people who sustained the Democratic party for the last 20 years. Anyone who thinks we can win an election without their money and votes has a lot to learn about electoral politics.

That's mighty inclusive of you.

Yeah, she would be an awesome attack machine, we should know, plus she doesn't have to take the high road like Barack, that is his thing.  Yeah it could sound a little like a contradiction, but putting them together, when they actually have a common goal, and have looked excellent together on the stage, just could prove unstoppable.  Holy crap....I think I am starting to get a little giddy.... who knew?

actually, at this point folks like YOU are the main reason I am worried about the joint ticket.

You think he is a midget, and she is a poltical titan. How is that supposed work in this scenario?

So, you will probably NEVER be happy with her in second place, and VP is second fiddle by defination.

It shouldn't be a consulation prize, or, as someone said, maybe she can just run the domestic agenda? That is just so wrong.

It's not the co-presidency, and I worry that is what most of you want who still carry the torch.

It's Obama's Presidency, and even with her on the ticket, I don't trust you guys to EVER support him.

but your comments encourage the thoughts that are rumbling in my head because of this thread.

You really hate Sen. Obama, I'm guessing.  What strikes me is that while PUMAs have managed to feed their own bile-stoves and keep the Flame Burning Brightly, the rest of us really have moved past the Primary emotions.

I'll be frank, it didn't thrill me to be planning on voting for Sen. Clinton back before Sen. Obama showed he had the chops to make it, and during the primary I got really personal about it (that was a polititude - insert your own image of ranting, raving, cat-hurling angry if you like ;~).  But now I find that I don't have any lingering ill-will left in me, and looking back she has impressed me despite myself.

It may well be that with the cool-down period waning those of us Obama supporters who had gotten seriously underwear-bunched during the primary could find ourselves welcoming her to the ticket.

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Still mulling.

-chris

With supporters like you Hillary doesn't need enemies.

Like Chris Blask and other thoughtful Obama supporters who have moved on from the primary wars, I'm also beginning to see the merits that a joint ticket would have. I always thought there were pluses and minuses, but given the dearth of other veep choices out there, Hillary's pluses were mounting up...

UNTIL you came along.

Don't you get it. Obama won a very close race. A close race between candidates who had very few substantive policy differences. The VP slot is in Obama's hands. He can screw it up or make it work.

But even though most Obama supporters would have Hillary as a second or third choice candidate, the continuing bile of McCain loving PUMA's tarnishes her chances.

Back off. Or understand politics. You're doing Hillary no favors here.

Only of McSame....

Nice drive-by troll rating on me, Teacher, you douchebag.  No wonder this site is dead half the time.  "Users" such as yourself make it borderline intolerable.