I was talking about the rank-and-file Democrats, you know, the "average" Democrat.  I don't see what a Claire McCaskill has to do with that?   I consider myself a die-hard Democrat, have voted nothing but Democratic all my life.  I see many of us not supporting Obama, and I think that is borne out by the evidence we have before us.  So, Obama gets more Independents.  That in no way makes up for his major deficienices with Democrats.  This site is a Democratic site, so pointing out that Obama is quite weak with a majority of Democrats makes sense.